Kirpal Singh

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Kirpal Singh: Concentrate, concentrate, and concentrate. Put in as much time as you can. In due course, this habit will be formed in concentration.

Question: I have heard that Master takes care of all karma between families and initiates, concerning gifts.

Kirpal Singh: I never said so. Look here: the point is, how many friends have you got? You may have give and take with one, two or three; but all the world over? Whenever you take anything from anybody, you have to repay. There are very few friends man can have. Suppose you invite somebody, or somebody invites you today. Another day, two or three days, he expects return. Invitation is returned, you see. You don’t give him then there is trouble. So no such thing, you see.

Question: How about within a family?

Kirpal Singh: Within a family – fathers, children – that’s the give and take, previous reactions of the past. They do come up.

Question: Aren’t we all members of one family?

Kirpal Singh: So man has got two or three children, or one family, naturally he has to take something. That is why he was born somewhere. Then in due course you will find the father and mother will also have to be helped. … As you sow, so shall you reap.

Question: Doesn’t it distract from the idea that God is the Father of all when you think in terms of a single family?

Kirpal Singh: What? What has that to do with it? God is Father of everybody, not just one family. We are all His children. Man is one who is of help to others. Animals help those who are connected with them; man is one who helps his own family, earns his livelihood, and helps others too. So we are all children of God. We are conscious entities, drops of the Ocean of All-Consciousness.

Look here. By the reactions of the past, men are brought together, as sons, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters. This is previous give and take that we have to pay off here. Now we are connected in one family. Naturally, man is one who helps others. When they are joined together by the flowing pen of God, as brother, as sister, as father, as mother, naturally, we should help them. And if you help anybody, the family of another man who is well off, he should also help everybody. So within that area, that is but natural, to develop like that, give and take. Real Love – how many people have got it? Our Love is only reciprocal. You help another and He will help you. Generally. But if you love God, for His sake you love everybody because God resides in every heart. In that case you are not bound. In this case you are bound.

Question: If I give to somebody in our family (of man), how is the give and take there?

Kirpal Singh: If he loves the members of the family of God, and helps them because God resides in their hearts, anybody who does like that, for the sake of that, he is selfless, there is no return. If he has not realised God, and does not see God in everybody, and does give to somebody, then naturally there is the law of As you sow, so shall you reap.

Question: What were the three Questions that the Master asked His Master? I heard them once before but I forgot them.

Kirpal Singh: Well, what’s the use of repeating all those things? They don’t help him. This is my Question, between my Master and my God. You say any Question you have got. It is just like speaking about myself, ‘I am very high.’

Question: Are we supposed to do Simran when we eat and are we to eat in silence?

Kirpal Singh: Let me tell you one example. You have got a wound, and that is bandaged; when you eat your food, do you remember the pain all the time or not? Naturally. the pain is there, but you are eating.

Question: When I try to meditate, I’m afraid to die.

Kirpal Singh: Where were you initiated?

Questioner: Sant Bani.

Kirpal Singh: You see, we have to leave the body some day. If your breathing is involved, you’ll be in trouble. You are asked not to pay any attention to the breathing going on in the body below. Simply fix your whole attention into the middle of the darkness lying in front of you, outside, here. In that case, you won’t feel anything. Don’t watch the process of breathing going on in the body. Then you will have no difficulty and no fear. Did you have any fear on that day you were initiated?

Questioner: No.

Kirpal Singh: That’s the right way of doing it. Because the karmic link is not broken, we have to return. It’s leaving the body at will, while alive – this all Masters have been advising. Because if you know how to leave the body at will, at the time of death you’ll go jolly – because you are accustomed to it. St. Paul said, I die daily.

Question: Do angels help us on the physical plane?

Kirpal Singh: Angels? Angels worship whom? He who has appointed them as angels: God. Then if you worship God, where is the fear of the angels?

You need no help from the angels when you look to the King. When He is related to you very closely, by relation, by blood, by soul.

Question: A good man once spoke to me about the devil being an angel who has rebelled against God. Can this be true?

Kirpal Singh: That is metaphorically speaking. There are two powers. One is the Highest Power which is the Creator of all. Then, at a lower level, the Negative Power is made; that is always going into expression for the purpose of formation of the world. That is Brahm; it is made for that. So there is nothing devilish …

Kabir says,

God created two powers, Negative and Positive. Positive has its own work and Negative is going into expression. One goes in towards the Source, the other recedes outward.

So truly speaking, there is no Satan, only those Powers are created Kal and Akal, Negative and Positive. They each have their own work. Those under the command of the Negative Power, they always like to go out into expression. And those who want to come back again to their Home, naturally they follow the Positive way. That is given through the Saints: Contact with God into expression, called Naam or Word, which has got two manifestations, Light and Sound. When you are contacted with that, It will take you direct to the Source from where It emanated: the True Home of our Father. So there is no antagonism, but that [Negative Power] is made for the purpose of Creation; because He had to make the Creation.

If you light a candle, the flame will go up because the source of light is the sun. If you invert it, even then the flame will go up, because the source is above it. If you throw a clod of earth into the air, however forcefully you may send it, again it will come to the earth because the source of the clod is beneath. Similarly, mind is negative in its effect. It is always working to take you into expression. But the soul is of the Positive side.

It wants to take you up to its own Source. When soul is freed from the mind, that goes to God. So mind is made for the purpose of keeping the world going. Without mind the world could not go on. Kal and Akal both are expressions of the Absolute … The Absolute is from where they all come. This is an intricate question, of course, but it can be understood this way.

Question: Is the nature of angels positive or negative?

Kirpal Singh: Even the avatars are under the law of cause and effect. Incarnations, what to speak of angels! Yes, surely. They are higher, of course, they have done some good actions; they get bliss for a longer time, in the higher planes, then come back again. In the Upanishads it is said that the souls of the Rishis, when they returned after enjoying the bliss of the higher planes, selected the man-body, because in the man-body alone can the soul reach God.

Question: Can an angel reincarnate as a man or not?

Kirpal Singh: Yes. If they are to go back to God, they must take the form of man. There is no other Way back to God. I just quoted from the Upanishads where it is said so.

Question: How can the devil incarnate as a man?

Kirpal Singh: There is no devil. That is only the name given to the Negative Power, to the Power going into expression. Had that Power not been, there’d have been no world.

Question: How can an angel who rebelled against God take a human incarnation?

Kirpal Singh: You see, take the example of the world. There are different appointments: officers, viceroys, commanders-in-chief. Under the Law of Karma, all are equal. But they have different positions in order to carry on the work. So this is the appointment of angels. Some are deputy commissioners, some are commissioners, some are governors; but they are under the law of cause and effect. They are not immune to it. You are not immune, unless you become directly connected with the God in you. This is the law, you see. You should go and ask God to tell you all these things. This is what He has made.

Question: If an angel were never incarnate in a human body, it would still be subject to the law of cause and effect? [Reno Sirrine answered, ‘Yes.’] Then this angel, the devil … but if an angel has never reincarnated, how can it rehabilitate?

Kirpal Singh: These are the appointments, as a man is promoted from private to corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, major, or general. They are all subject to the law of cause and effect. If they make any mistake, they are brought to the court. Only God Himself is immune from that, or those who are connected with Him. Others are all under the law of cause and effect. Even incarnations¹, you’ll find, have to undergo the law of cause and effect. Lord Rama struck and killed some man. In his next birth, Rama became Lord Krishna, you see, the incarnation of that age. And the man he had killed became a hunter and killed him. They are not immune. Even a military officer may control a town, but if he breaks any law he is brought to court.

Question: I know a man who lives as a vegetable: he can’t move, he can’t take food or take care, but his heart beats. Should he be let alone to die or go on living on this plane like that?

Kirpal Singh: Man should do his best, do what he can, in the instance of keeping life longer. If he is not to live longer, he cannot live longer. Thy days are numbered. With all your help, he won’t live longer.

Question: Is his soul still in the body as long as his heart is beating?

Kirpal Singh: Yes, surely. The system cannot go on without it. When that is withdrawn, everything stands still.

Questioner: His mind is not working, though.

Kirpal Singh: Look here, any factory is run by the powerhouse. And those departments work which are connected with the link of the powerhouse. So if the main connection is taken off of the factory, the whole machinery stands still.

So the whole machinery of the body is run by the soul; when that is withdrawn, everything comes to a standstill. Otherwise it will continue working.

Question: When does the soul enter the body? Upon birth, or before?

Kirpal Singh: When gestation started. When pregnancy started. Otherwise, there are hundreds of contacts, there is no pregnancy.

Question: If we have to incarnate again, will we incarnate at a time when we will find a Living Master?

Kirpal Singh: Yes, surely. That remains all the time; that Power exists all the time, it never dies. It works from pole to pole from time to time. There is food for the hungry and water for the thirsty. Any child who was born five hundred years back, or five thousand years back, or now, does Nature not provide milk from the mother for that child, before birth? That’s a natural law. That Power continues.

Question: If we’ve been initiated by the present Living Master and we come back, will we be initiated by the same Master again?

Kirpal Singh: Yes, that Power is working. That Power is, you see, Word made flesh. That will continue. You will be brought in contact with that and put on the way, and He will help you.

Question: Would the Master speak briefly on the raising and disciplining of children?

Kirpal Singh: Are you parents or not? [Yes.] You see, look here: Whenever you bring up any child, what would you like? You would like the child to be an ideal one – more active, more conscientious, more wise – is it not? Then set an example for him; first thing.

Second: You try to bring him round from the wrong thing that he is doing that he does not understand. Bring him round by polite words, kind words – not by rebuke. Because man must know. Man learns and unlearns all through life. If the child has done something wrong, please make him understand what the wrong thing is that he has done, once or twice. If you are going to slap him one, two, three, four times, poor fellow does not know what is the wrong he has done! So we must politely bring the child round so that he may not do it in the future.

Our duty is to bring up children and make them ideal men – even better than you are. If you are to bring up a child, Masters say, bring him up a Saint or bring him up a brave man, or a man who will help others. Bringing forth children who are of no use is taking a burden for nothing. Either he should be a Saint, he should be a brave man, or he should be one who will be of service to all others. These are the three things.

Question: How much should a parent forebear a child’s rebellion?

Kirpal Singh: There are two reasons for that. One thing is, truly speaking, we are responsible for the children. The child in the womb is affected by the mother’s thoughts. If you are very saintly, the child must be saintly. Only a saintly soul will enter. And the child develops as it receives impressions in the womb. Even physical impressions are received in the womb, what to speak of thoughts.

Further: As a reaction of the past, men are brought together to pay off their debts. Then we are to adjust ourselves. You must set an example to them. Children copy what the parents do. Parents do not know, but they copy them. So if the reactions have to be paid off, that is natural consent. Pay off lovingly and give them Love in return rather than any, what you say, retaliation.

Question: Master, would You speak on the diary, please?

Kirpal Singh: I think last night I gave a talk on that. Diary means what? Keeping a vigilant watch over all your actions, what you do, daily. That which is not a helping factor in going back to God is to be avoided. And generally there are certain heads laid down for guidance. One is to be truthful. Another is to be chaste. The third one is: God resides in everybody – and we are Souls, children of the same Father – love everybody.

And selfless service: Man is one who lives for others – not just to bring up his own children, like animals. And the highest of all is non-violence – not to hurt the feelings of others by thought, word or deed. These are the general lines. Any failures under these heads should be noted down. You must criticise yourself as you would like to criticise others. Don’t spare yourself. And when you find the failures, may be a hundred, never mind, but weed them out. Simply saying, ‘I am a sinner, I am a sinner’ – that won’t do. Weed out.

And along with that, you are given a contact with the God-into-expression-Power, Light and Sound. The more you come in contact with that, and the more your life is purified, the more advancement there is on the way. You will reach back Home quicker. Diaries are meant for your further guidance. Please be regular. That is why I always enjoin, ‘Even send your diaries blank – I will accept.’ How many months will you send your diaries blank? One month, two months, three months? You will feel morally you are not doing right; you will begin to keep it. Then when you begin to do diary, anything wrong will be set right and you will be on the way.

Question: With father, mother, why is it so? Why are some good, some not good?

Kirpal Singh: I have given two reasons already. Follow it, please. One: the reactions of the past. The other: the effects of the parents, in the womb and outside.

Question: But is it possible for a human to be born that does not have God for a Father and Mother?

Kirpal Singh: Mind your own business, please. Take your own family and see what the father wishes for the children. I tell you, when a child is born, he does not know who his father is. He is told later on. Later, by blood relations, he feels. Similarly, we don’t know if we have God for our Father or not.

When you are in unison, you will feel there is a God, later on. These are questions, you see – just go on with your own self within, your own environments. You are a family man, just set an example of a good father.

Question: If God is our Father, is God our Mother too?

Kirpal Singh: God is God. These relations are given out to show what can be possible. Sometimes they relate to Him as brother, sometimes as servant and Master, like that. Sometimes as wife and husband, mother and father. These are different relationships given out by the Masters to bring home to us that we are truly closely related to Him. We are of the same essence as that of God.

Lord Rama put a Question to Hanuman, one of his most devoted servants:

Who are you?

He said,

So long as I am in the body, I am Your servant; when I rise above, I am One with You.

So our soul is of the same essence as that of God. We are drops of the Ocean of All-Consciousness, and when we unite, we are One with Him. We are the drops, He is the Ocean. And when we are in the body, naturally we’ll use some close connection to understand how closely you are related to God. … God is all Light, we are Light. God is all consciousness, we are drops of the Ocean of All-Consciousness. There is no sex there, in the soul. … The point is, you take Him as Father, all right; whatever you like. Then behave like that – then you have a right to take Him as Father, owner, husband, – whatever pleases you.

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Footnote: 1) That is, avatara, or incarnations of the Negative Power.